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Damyip and Mechancus

Post by jayphailey » Wed Nov 27, 2024 6:18 am

The Damyip would welcome the Mechanus and ask them what value they found in the Federation.

Then they'd ask for a declaration of purpose, in regards to the Damyip and particularly the Ur-Damyip

As discussed the Damyip answers to these questions are

The core value of the Damyip is defense of the Ur-Damyip.

The Federation in addition to be a technologically advanced military ally, is also really good at making friends and doing diplomacy.

So the Damyip see cooperating with the Federation as a route to eliminate threats by converting them into friends, or at least diplomatic communicatants, where non-military means of interaction could hold sway.

In regard to the Mechanus, the Damyip seek to increase understanding, and attempt to secure some friendly relations.

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Re: Damyip and Mechancus

Post by Innkeeper » Wed Nov 27, 2024 5:52 pm

Mechanus are Life. They have grown beyond the original purpose as servitors as those served are gone. At this point pure curiosity drives them. They wish to know what is out there. They retain a respect for any life not shooting at them and will preserve it. Ur-Damyip included.

They are an expression of the positornic brain. They were network but are not as networked as the Damyip. They functionally sit between the Soong Androids and the RIs. They are the brain, but the body might be rebuilt repeatedly throughout their lives. They are good with exchanging an astromech style body (The H unit) that is a walking toolbox for say being a starship. Then later becoming a supervisor. You body and experience is your job.

Because of their contact with the Builders that are by nature telepathic they have integrated the telepathic interface. This has vastly sped up their ability to network, no longer limited by subspace.

But each Mechnaus is one individual, they do not have drones. However observing the RIs even that is changing. They are willfully evolving themselves.

Oh, also working with the Builders to revitalized their world back to Class M status. They recognize letting it go as a failure.
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Re: Damyip and Mechancus

Post by jayphailey » Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:08 am

The Damyip are horrified at the damage to the Mechanus homeworld and offer assistance.

The Ur-Damyip are actually very good at ecology and systemic biology. They have to be.

Once the Ur-Damyip see that, faint on all the fainting couches that could ever be, they take up helping restore the ecology as a religious mission.

There is a debate between the Ur-Damyip and the Damyip. It gets quite heated.

The Ur-Damyip want to build a monster bubble ship and head for Mechanus. The Damyip are dead set against this idea. They could never guarantee to defend it.

UD "fuck you, get building. We have to go help with this."
D "We're not your servants, we're your defenders. You cant just order us around like that, in the Federation that's not allowed."
UD "Fine we'll build it ourselves."
D (Deep Frustrated sigh)

Damyip 19 is a monsterously large ship built to carry a bubble of Ur-Damyip ecology, and essentially an ecological university - they'll travel world to world in the Federation and known space, heading for Mechanus, collecting samples and learning EVEN MORE about ecological and life sciences with the goal of helping the Mechanus recreate a first rate ecology for themselves.

This is a religious mission for the Ur-Damyip. They don't worship an ecology as a sentient god, but as the highest expression of the creation force of the universe.

I didn't know they were that flavor of crazy. They just jumped up and told me. "A what with a what? a Dead What? Pack up, we're going to help!"

Me - "Uhhh, that's probably going to be complete before you get there."

UD "Nonsense. we're needed and we go."

Me - "the likelihood of something going wrong isn't zero"

UD "We're needed and we go. If we die along the way, feed our remains to a swamp."

Damyip "Jay you made these guys up, help us out here!"

Me "I am just channeling some other dimensions crazy, dudes."

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Re: Damyip and Mechancus

Post by jayphailey » Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:13 am

The Damyip gently broach the subject of a technology exchange.

Also - it's okay for the Machanus to be different from the RI and the Damyip. Variation is okay for artificial life forms as well.

The Damyip "Your creation mirrors an evolution. You were built for a niche, the niche disappeared. Now you engineer your own niche. And you engineer yourselves to fit your chosen niche."

The Damyip ask the Mechanus what they know about humanoid social interactions. They've had to learn an entire galaxy of information in 40 decades and they're still finding weird edge cases.

As you said the Damyip consider the other Artificial beings in the Federation to be cousins.

Besides being excellent at making friends, humanoids also seem to excel at running loose and finding interesting things to poke into.

Following them around and watching their antics promises to be fun for 10 to 50 thousand years at least.

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Re: Damyip and Mechancus

Post by Innkeeper » Fri Nov 29, 2024 11:11 am

Damyip, a networked hierarchical system. The line between individuals can blur. They are hardware dependent. Not all are sophant.

Federation:
AI, several worlds with slightly different flavors with only the top end being sophant. Holo-people come out if this. They are hardware independent.
RI: The Ane expression of the above. They mainly express through the bios as Ane consider skin to skin very important. In spite of that they are hardware independent.
Soong Andriod: Classic positronic brain. Sophant and hardware dependent.

Ur-Builders The generations of computers and bio mechanical replacements that did not just go away when the replacement project was finished. The oldest are 700,000 year old. Sophant and hardware dependent.

Mechinaus: Positronic system designed to use interchangeable bodies. Everything from a roving toolbox to a starship. They are hardware dependent.

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Re: Damyip and Mechancus

Post by Innkeeper » Fri Nov 29, 2024 11:14 am

jayphailey wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:13 am

The Damyip "Your creation mirrors an evolution. You were built for a niche, the niche disappeared. Now you engineer your own niche. And you engineer yourselves to fit your chosen niche."

The Damyip ask the Mechanus what they know about humanoid social interactions. They've had to learn an entire galaxy of information in 40 decades and they're still finding weird edge cases.
Mechianus are way behind Damyip in humanoid social interaction. They have a decade are most. Buiulders do not count. They are nearly biologuical machines in their behavior. Damyip have "met" the Ur-Builders. the generation of biological replacements that did not just go away with the project was finished.
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Re: Damyip and Mechancus

Post by jayphailey » Sat Nov 30, 2024 12:37 am

The Damyip will share what they have painfully learned

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Re: Damyip and Mechancus

Post by Innkeeper » Wed Dec 04, 2024 8:56 pm

The project will not be finished when they get there. The Builders do nothing quickly. The whole planet must be surveyed, compared to the records of what it was and so forth. A search for seed banks (There is one.)

By the time the ur-damyip arrive the initial work on what is will be done, and the discussion how to fix it will have started. Their input would be welcome. Mechinaus does not insist it be what was, only that it be.

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Re: Damyip and Mechancus

Post by jayphailey » Thu Dec 05, 2024 7:12 am

The Ur-Damyip insist on getting the basics as close to perfect as can be reached.

I am sure that between all three they increase each others knowledge of ecological engineering.

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Re: Damyip and Mechancus

Post by Innkeeper » Thu Dec 05, 2024 2:11 pm

jayphailey wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2024 7:12 am
The Ur-Damyip insist on getting the basics as close to perfect as can be reached.

I am sure that between all three they increase each others knowledge of ecological engineering.
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