Is the Universe Spinning?

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Is the Universe Spinning?

Post by jayphailey » Fri May 09, 2025 9:00 am

Is the Universe Spinning?

once every 500 million years? Or 26 times around since the beginning?

https://youtu.be/ZuHqVqwssYQ?si=UoARZLvfdOaVvrE5

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Re: Is the Universe Spinning?

Post by Innkeeper » Fri May 09, 2025 9:47 am

jayphailey wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 9:00 am
Is the Universe Spinning?

once every 500 million years? Or 26 times around since the beginning?

https://youtu.be/ZuHqVqwssYQ?si=UoARZLvfdOaVvrE5
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Re: Is the Universe Spinning?

Post by Innkeeper » Fri May 09, 2025 5:34 pm

jayphailey wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 9:00 am
Is the Universe Spinning?

once every 500 million years? Or 26 times around since the beginning?

https://youtu.be/ZuHqVqwssYQ?si=UoARZLvfdOaVvrE5
Yea, how do you tell? And if spin is right it blows the whole there is no center to the universe idea out of the water. As she mentions spin requires an axis.

The Hubble tension means we are doing something wrong. The question then is what? I've heard explanations from dark stuff to we have the gravitational constant wrong. So far they are all the equivalent of plugging in the number you need. It make the equation look good, but breaks shit. I sometimes think we are barking up the wrong fundamental physics tree.

The issue is that when we do delve into how things work, they are simple. Physics has been getting more complex, like Ptolemaic cosmology. We keep adding quantum epicycles to plug the equation.

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Re: Is the Universe Spinning?

Post by jayphailey » Fri May 09, 2025 8:05 pm

Well, if you listen carefully, at the end of it she says

"There's no way to tell" there's nothing to measure this spin against.

It remains a mathematical idea that might solve some issues while introducing others.

So while it's interesting to noodle about - It's not really a solution

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Re: Is the Universe Spinning?

Post by Innkeeper » Sat May 10, 2025 3:25 am

jayphailey wrote:
Fri May 09, 2025 8:05 pm


So while it's interesting to noodle about - It's not really a solution
Like all the other hypothesized solutions, so far.
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Re: Is the Universe Spinning?

Post by Innkeeper » Sat May 10, 2025 2:03 pm

The fook?

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Re: Is the Universe Spinning?

Post by jayphailey » Sat May 10, 2025 6:57 pm

The concept rreminds me of the song.

Just before you you were dismissing the discussion as "more of the same"

Ar you trying to have it both ways?

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Re: Is the Universe Spinning?

Post by Innkeeper » Sun May 11, 2025 2:01 am

jayphailey wrote:
Sat May 10, 2025 6:57 pm
The concept rreminds me of the song.

Just before you you were dismissing the discussion as "more of the same"

Ar you trying to have it both ways?
I don't have it a way. I read/watch the sparkly physics stuff and nod. I notice they do not know, and are trying to know. I think we are in for a fundamental shift in physics and astrophysics because the answers they are getting do not line up.
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Re: Is the Universe Spinning?

Post by jayphailey » Sun May 11, 2025 3:05 am

Innkeeper wrote:
Sun May 11, 2025 2:01 am
I don't have it a way.

Subject/object problem.


You're talking to me

I say "X"

You say "I cynically dismiss X, but then I think X is cool."

You can think one way, the other ways or all ways about X

But when I say "X"

and you say "I cynically dismiss X"

I am also hearing "Why are you bothering me about X when it's not worth talking about."

Be more targeted with your cynicism please. If you don't want me to bring things up, then we run out of things to discuss.

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